The Late Great Ufo Debate, Where we are so far

[vincejapfran]

YouTube has been one of the best sources of information to find out what's being seen in the skies and what's going on out there. Perhaps having a look at the Disclosure projects and Exopolotics seminars online, can help us get a little bit closer to "the Truth." Watching people like Nick Pope helps to clear up some of the 'mystique' surrounding the UFO and Alien phenomenon.

After studying this phenomenon for many years, the muddy ufological waters are becomming a little clearer in my view.

There's 5% of ufos such as the Foo fighters which are photographed, appear to be intelligently controlled and can keep up with Concorde (see the film on YouTube) but they are not metallic and can't really be explained - probably never will be.

In the 40's we saw the dawn of the modern Flying Saucer phenomenon. Documents discovered show that in the 40's, the Nazi's had developed designs of saucer shaped craft, some using conventional ideas and others using electromagnetic systems. In the 50's the Aerocar company took these designs and developed hovering disc craft and also tried to develop larger super saucers - co incidenatlly at this time - the Saucer Contactee phenomenon started, people Like George Adamski would photograph flying saucers and talk with the pilots (who said they came from Venus) The saucers in the 80s became more streamlined in appearance and other saucer contactees like Billy Meier from Switzerland started writing books and taking photos of these flying saucers.

In the 90's the saucers started to be less prevailent as the producers started creating triangular craft as part of project Aurora - the stealth F17 being the early generation types seen in Belgium France, the US. These are what we call Unconventional Flying Objects. In the 90's stealth took another quantum leap and we now see what appears to be the latest ufo - the tr3b - each one costing up to a billion dollars. These ufo's can allegedgly change their colour and can 'paint' an image on their polymer surfaces so that they could appear as any shape to the human eye. There's some good tr3b footage captured on YouTube.

Did the tr3b come from outer space - probably not, more likely they are from here as pat of black ops projects.

So what about ET and has he ever actually visited us before? As there are millions of suns similar to ours, it's probable there is life out there, most likely at the same technological level we're at. There's photo evidence that there may be ancient structures on Mars too, not built by us. If you believe the hearsay, people are claiming that the Secret Governments have bases on Mars already - so would that mean the Martians are us?

Dr Stephen Greer of the Disclosure project alleges that the SETI project has indeed received radio contact from ET which is plausible - but no proof of that yet. However there are plenty of historical cases of humans being contacted by a higher intelligence via consciousness / telepathy such as St Francis of Assissi and St Joan of Arc - changing the course of history in medieval times.

The film Contact by Carl Sagan points the way as to how you may physically reach the stars - by opening a worm hole and dropping through it. The machine in this story wasn't exactly a space ship - more of a portal opening device.

Regarding contact with an actual ET - there's some footage on YouTube of a 70's kids programme (I watched at school) called Chocky which is the story of a boy who has psychic contact with an ET from another star system. If I were an Alien wanting to contact humans, that's how I'd go about it.

There are also many 'channellers' who allow alleged ET and interdimensional beings to talk through their vocal chords to people who want to listen. If they are for real, this would be one of the best methods of contacting a higher intelligence, avoiding having to somehow travel vast distances in space to say "hello!"

So - where's this all leading us? Well if disclosure actually happens in a few years, many of us are hoping the the 'powers that be' will release technology such as zero point energy devides that would end our energy crisis, stop global pollution and end world poverty which is all dependant on fossil fuel, our 'black gold.'

I don't expect any disclosure on the secrets of the tr3b and Aurora projects - which for national security reasons is understandable.

For those interested, you can google the Disclosure Project or Dr Stephen Greer - their conference is in November this year 2009. You can also see Stephen being interviewed by Project Camelot at the Barcelona Exopolotics conference 09.

[UFOHARRY]

Hi Vince, there is food for thought in what you say.
Oh and its good to see you back.
Cheers
UFOHARRY

[vincejapfran]

Hello Harry!

yes it's good to be doing the forum again after an absence of about 4 years or so! Keep me updated if you're doing any more sky watches as I've got a bit more freedom than I used to - however I guess this is not best time of year for that - not long before the snow is coming!

Will keep in touch, cheers