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 Other Wargames?, Non-GW
Warpanda
Posted: Apr 19 2007, 03:20 PM


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Inspired by the topic regarding GW's financial situation, I've gotten to wondering what other wargames are out there that are non-GW, and if anyone's had much experience with 'em. If so, I'd like to hear what they are, and your thoughts on the system, models, and company behind the game. Not interested in collectible card games (not even Magic), RPG's (even ones with models), video games (don't do those anymore), or the restójust good old tabletop wargames.


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arkol
Posted: Apr 19 2007, 03:36 PM


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FOW

DBA

DBM

DBR (Renaissance version)

Hordes of Things


This are the ones I know and have either played or saw people playign around here.

I've heard of a multitude of others but never played them. Also do war-boardgames with minis count?

Oh duh. Warmachine and confrontation too of course.

Rememberer another one. Mage Knight.


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Warpanda
Posted: Apr 19 2007, 04:23 PM


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War-boardgames with minis? I dunno, depends on the system. I think wargames as a genre is pretty well-defined. A game with a customizable army comprised of miniature figurines representing units or individuals from a number of different factions, each with strengths and weaknesses, almost always with a points cost system of some sort, involving dice and fighting over something, and usually with more options than are available in a starter set (i.e. you have to go out and buy more minis).


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Posted: Apr 19 2007, 05:49 PM


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I have enjoyed Flames of War and War Machine (what little I've played of either). I really like the old Classic out of print Battletech. Heroscape is supposed to be really good and I have a couple of friends who are really into it.

I also really like Pirates of the Spanish Main, a collectible card miniature game. The nice thing about that one is that it is dirt cheap biggrin.gif While it is on cards you make the models in 3D and it fits your definition. I think other than Warhammer this is my favorite war game right now.


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tankmaster
Posted: Apr 20 2007, 02:22 AM


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I play flames of war and it is a good game. However I find the tank armour rules a little annoying. But thats probly just because my friend has a TIGER! Grrr.


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magicaltux
Posted: Apr 20 2007, 10:59 AM


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a world war II game... wow, i will have to find more about this game, cause it look really cool. I always been interested into the WW2


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Posted: Apr 20 2007, 01:35 PM


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Currently quite popular in the Netherlands are Hordes and WARMACHINE. Never played them myself but Privateer Press seems to be doing a great job here in the Netherlands.


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Warpanda
Posted: Apr 20 2007, 04:32 PM


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Mmf, yes, I have a Hordes force. Friend has a Warmachine force. We fight vigorously.

The other stuff looks like the good old classic wargaming, stuff for re-enacting (or rewriting!) historical battles. Although the flexibility of Hordes of the Things is interesting ...


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arkol
Posted: Apr 20 2007, 04:49 PM


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The other stuff looks like the good old classic wargaming, stuff for re-enacting (or rewriting!) historical battles.


Not quite. FOW is actually said to have one the best all-around systems for wargaming. Not too simple. Not too complex. And it's the first to have really widespread sucess on the historical side of wargames.

Calling it "good old classic" is wrong. Really wrong. It's very inovative and it managed something no other game as done which was to concentrate players from several different systems into one "oficial" system.

For exemple you like the Napoleonic period. So you go and make a napoleonic army. Say you use Shako rules for it (I think shako is napoleonic...). Then oen day you find another guy who also has a napoleonic army. You sheduele a battle and when the day comes you find out that his army is on a completly different (and incompatible) system. This is what happens to most historical periods in wargames. And it was the same for WWII. Till FOW.



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Warpanda
Posted: Apr 20 2007, 08:08 PM


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Calling it "good old classic" is wrong. Really wrong. It's very inovative and it managed something no other game as done which was to concentrate players from several different systems into one "oficial" system.


I meant only praise. Wargames got their start as historical reenactments, and it's only in comparatively modern times that fantasy and sci-fi wargames have eclipsed historical ones, it seems. That was what I was referring to.

It sounds like a great idea though. Not unprecedented, though nearly so, and I've never seen the idea executed well. The Wiki site indicates that FOW is just a WWII game ...


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